Gripping situation and no wonder brought a wide smile! Heard so much that my ears tend to ignore these days!:D

Johnji, heard a live concert in Alabama. Planning to make it? :)

Wow, a beauty!!

Great narration -terse, sweet and relevant. Loved the sarcasm too. Not a great fan of

the infamous "f" words myself, although I do love it when beautiful girls utter them,

something is sexy about it ;). I mean when a girl says "f--k you", it feels like a

compliment to me :D. I would rather respond with something like "anytime girl!!!" :D


Please do keep writing, makes this place hell lot better to live in. Grave ain't fun :)

And thanks a ton for recalling me in the other thread. I am elated!!

Anon,
Truly said, the environment which were are raised shapes us up its way, but then there is a time you realized you have to make a choice. Acute cursing if sounds permissible at recent times might give a way to sex in public and even battery and murder. Further, I made a point that I find cursing excusable under conditions which takes us off guard. I was only against offhand swearing.

Seriousguy,
I am more than glad that this thread is not decimated like the others I had posted before, and I am equally delighted that it evoked some debates from analytical sajhaites like you. First, I never mentioned anything about patriarchy. If you rummage through the story again, you find the see-saw of misdemeanor tilted towards gentlemen. Do the math, it is reena against luda and ashok. I find cavalier swearing equally offensive regarless of sexes.
As far as hip hop is concerned, police brutality should not be sterotyped for eons. There are mistakes made, there were racial prejudices, but not in the fashion hip hop artists claim it today. Eminem, Dre, Snoop Dogg have a record of consuming narcotics, Biggie and Tupac were killed in rivalry. Why does this not happen to Rod Stewart or Phil Collins? There might be exceptions in axl rose, curt cobain et al but the majority of the rock and roll and blues artist do not display hatred and crime in their songs. Just a final thought, I have nothing to do with what Eminem had against his wife, it is time he did not wash his dirty linen in public and resolved it inside closed doors. Hatred begets hatred and induces to generations.

Cerine,
That was the whole point, I am not discriminating sexes here.

Meera,
Thanks for the accord, let's go buy some ear plugs.

Hunk,
The reason I mentioned you in the other thread is because you deserved it. And yes, I also love the beautiful girls swea, especially when their tire turns flat or they their stilletto give off in Sunset boulevard. I am just not a fan of casual cursing.

You suck John, i envy ur writing ! U r f*%$ing damn good ! :) Om Shanti !! Shanti !!

I have noticed the way people speak , Yeah prollly i am 2 year ahead of these +2 kids but yes i am surprised to see the change in them, so rapid so different.
'Ludacris Manandher' haha

NY's hip-hop culture and nepalese stuffed between that.
I dont see nepalese will keep their identity , if this is the trend. They will be carried away by the storm of NY.

Following a culture aint bad at all but maintain ur identity dude !!!

Keep writing.

Pundit,
Thanks for visiting, but the whole point is not about people in New York, they are everywhere. And again, I am not against people listening to hip hop. I am against how strongly people believe in issues narrated in those songs. Although I value our culture, I must admit there are some social obligation which shouldn't have been.

Yes there are times I just want to break free and live like an independent human being who does not believe in any culture, caste and creed, but then, hip hop culture is the last thing that comes in my mind.

i am a big fan of hip hop music dance and just music in general. But i do not think i go cursing around just to be hip, so to speak.

may i add that it depends on the individuals as well. i do not understand why some have this need to feed their "conformity" urgence.

another thing is that people trying to act black and all to be cool but they donot understand how much of a struggle it still is in this country to be black.

hey Galt you always put some quality work good job i always enjoy your postings.

Galt,
I would like to add few more points regarding this sensitive yet ignored topic which you have so skillfully presented.

In my point of view , lack of moral values and discipline, excess indulgence in overrated media, incorrect and superficial way of learning things, blind imitation without knowing the fact just to seek attention are some of the reasons why people have tendency to insert filthy words in their conversation.

I struggle every now and then with my choices- choices that i make either to ignore or to fight back. The former sounds easier than the later one, though the choice have to be made for the sake of generations to come.

Yes,
I was missing
in narrow alleys of home
in drops of monsoon rain;

I was missing in crowd of deities
in mother's lap, and in father's arms once left behind.

I turned around and said good -bye
As i headed on to search myself

See, I have found myself again
But something is missing
Have I ? Where is my genesis?
Have i missed it?

Looking forward to watching Andy's 360 tonight, see if he can help me out find my genesis :)

Almost missed your article. ..
......Very well presented. I have been guilty of using curse word at times. In my case, it helps me get my frustration out. But i understand what you are talking about.
... I guess some people think it is cool and hip to use these words in every sentence...

It is a pleasure to read your work.

John_galt - i thought there'd be french in it when i read the title but when i read the story it had no french in it!! haha!!
but yeah i know what you're talking about ke!! it's present everywhere these days!!
but it was really really really really really good!! :P :P

PS: i like this one the best ke: http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=24036

Birbhadra,
In awe of your ambivalence, all I have to say is I do not find myself being modish cursing my lungs out when there's isn't any need of it. As far as confirmity urgence goes, I have learnt it from current sajhaites, shed your excess baggage the way you want, it is sajha after all.
and oh yes, I listen to hip hop too, as long as they do not talk about having raw sex or snorting cocaine. Thanks for visiting, your reply made my brain neurons fill with adrenalin.

Vantage,
muchacha, donde era tú? Indeed no see for a long time, thanks for the poem, gives me a feeling that you are in Nepal....are you really? Pls keep us posted.

Chameli,
I almost missed your reply too....soothes my soul when beautiful people like you read 'em and care to drop a line. A food for thought - go curse your brain out, but have a reason for it.

Nails,
comment allez-vous ? Now that was french...thanks for visiting.

Besides the occasional "French" to express certain emotions or emphasis, I do detest the extravagent usage of vulgar words. I am no prude, but I just don't understand why people have to resort to using those words. Is it that those folks don't have sufficient vocabulary? Even more disgusting are those (and I have seen many Nepalis like this) who feel they are being hip and fashionable by using vulgarities - that too in loud voices so that they could pollute the ears of those around.

.
f#&king amazing piece
i laughed so f%uking hard, i swear to god my f#king pants fell off

haha ....loved it!!
have enjoyed all your write- ups this one is simply " THE BEST" !!

John : Good stuff. I thoroughly enjoyed the piece. I'm still laughing. I guess words like these are so much a part of contemporary urban American culture that they are considered only to be borderline profanity. Also, I suppose there is often more sarcasm than offence intented with some of these words - especially words like bit$% and bast@$#. But yes, those are certainly words that you don't use in polite company. As for a bunch of loud mouth New Yorkers of the type you describe, I don't think they could be, or would want to be considered "polite company". LOL


PS: Accoring to Google the French for FU is (A) va te faire foutre and (B) encule ...he he (don't mind hai, couldn't resist!) And I wonder if the French say pardon my English when they use these words :)

Have a good one and keep writing!

Vantage Point - Wah, kya khatra kabita! Nepal ko hawa pani seem to have got the juices flowing, eh? :)

chatmandude,
You are right, loss of a good vocabulary and the fad of being hip calls for frequent usage of curse words even when not needed. If you contemplate this issue further, you find many who, who could not master the language skillfully, find resort in swearing. Thanks for visiting.

नुईटे,
An advice, wear a belt, or at least have an underwear on when you read it in public. Thanks for visiting.

gazer,
Right!! we are not talking about offense, not at all, we are simply talking about how trendy it's become to swear in public and be hip. People actually find themselves comfortable when addressed with these adjectives.

nb,
Thanks for showing your admiration, I try and improvise all the time, but sadly, only subjects like such get noticed.

I remember being a motor-mouth myself not so long ago...

Galt, as I see it, one grows out of it. I don't swear any more and I don't think that guys my age swear as much as they used to...

Even then I don't remember using foul language in front of my elders ever.

yacc,

After much brainstrorming, should we conclude that swearing is a one of premature adolescence bustle just like drinking and smoking? But while the latters, although, equally harmful, are not considered profane - swearing however is.

Thanks for reading.

Galt,

thanks for the respnse.

Well, swearing is also not considered profane if you are among like minded people, like if there were just Mr. Luda and your sister in law without anyone else overhearing. I didn't mind using swear words among my friends, I don't think I still mind the occasional slips among them.

I think my philosophy is-- whatever you do that may annoy others, don't do it among others who don't like it...

John,

There are synonyms and multiple rhetorics one can use. However, to get your emotions, feelings, wishes, urges, questions, pains etc through other people, there is always a best discourse. No alternative are equally effective.

You have that skill to attribute a right vernacular to a character and make her more alive.
And I am glad that you made "Ludacris" go french. It's his vernacular that makes us understand him better. This character doesn't give any care to the other well mannered character sitting on the eatery with his wife. May be I should use other words to say it appropriately.

As always you whet our curiosity and walked away whistling your favorite tunes... Come back ....