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 Vote for Hillary for President not Bernie 2016

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Posted on 01-27-16 12:33 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Who's your next president 2016?
 
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We've known Hillary for long time, her charity works towards numerous other humanitarian issues etc.
1. She gave and delivered a kickass commencement speech at Wellesley College in 1969.
2. She was one of 27 women who graduated from Yale Law School in 1973, out of a class of 235.
3. She was the only woman on the Nixon impeachment investigation team.
4. She cofounded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families advocacy group.
5. She broke the mold for first ladies with her speech at the 1995 United Nations Women's Conference in China.
6. She won a Grammy for the audio edition of her book, It Takes a Village.
7. She worked with Ted Kennedy to expand the Children's Health Insurance Program.
8. She won the most votes of any female presidential candidate in history.
9. She set the stage for Obamacare by pushing health care reform in the '90s and during the 2008 campaign.
10. She became the most-traveled U.S. secretary of state ever.
11. She set into motion the first American talks with Iran since the 1979 revolution.

Now who is Bernie Sanders, I don't know, I really don't know and to me he popped up suddenly out of nowhere. If you are partaking in a match, there has to be someone to compete with. I believe any contenders to Hillary are just those out there just for the sake of it(match aka debate). And for someone like me when I saw him suddenly on TV saying that he's getting donation for his campaign not from billionaires but public. People paid standing ovation with round of applause, so? so what's the point? Does that make him saint? But to lot of people that made sense and now he's everyone's' talk of the night. Yes, there are things that make lot of sense to people. The same people who would believe they're getting free Ipad on some fake facebook page of real publication, the same people who follow Trump the maniac, the same fans who would like/share tweets of their drughigh fav singer who claims earth is flat, the same people who resend/retext/reshare religious messages out of fear(do this or curse would happen type), the same people who argues Ron Paul's gold theory must come back in action, the same people who believe and sell all their belongings in the name of judgment day only to turn into homeless next day, seriously I sometimes think how gullible we are to think whatever we hear and see are the truths. Bernie Sanders is another hype to me. Few videos on youtube found me the guy was a big time critique of democratic party itself, and didn't spare Obama policy from criticizing. I am afraid of sweet talkers and often time they're the back stabbers.

In all honesty, I really can't trust this Bernie dude and it seems like how honestly he's saying his things, Hillary is the way to go. Campaigns can't be run without money, however way you get it, you need money. He'll be in billionaire's pocket too if he's to get presidency. Those who think he's not going to be, are just type of people I mentioned in a paragraph above this.

If you are OBAMA supporters, VOTE for Hillary, if you are not VOTE for bernie.

Good Luck.

I'm seeing Hillary Clinton as the next president of the United States of America.
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Posted on 03-29-16 8:07 PM     [Snapshot: 13847]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@mily please read this and let me know what do you think
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/its-time-for-hillary-clin_b_9555422.html
 
Posted on 03-29-16 11:02 PM     [Snapshot: 13901]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Mother of Gawd!!! I gave the most craziest, inhuman and insane answers, and see who tops the list of evil. Trump is second to the list, Ted is disgusting the way I answer things on survey.


 
Posted on 03-30-16 2:59 PM     [Snapshot: 14017]     Reply [Subscribe]
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microbiology, I just read the article. I didn't find anything that I haven't already read a million times on this very thread. And I've already responded to every point.
 
Posted on 03-30-16 3:00 PM     [Snapshot: 14018]     Reply [Subscribe]
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sixfour, your numbers also show that Bernie is the least insane person according to you. How about that ? :)
 
Posted on 03-30-16 3:42 PM     [Snapshot: 14039]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yes Mily, I couldn't agree more.
Vote either Hillary or Bernie. We can't let these repubs go to the house at all.

 
Posted on 03-30-16 10:06 PM     [Snapshot: 14102]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@microbiology

After reading the article you linked on HuffPost which is great by the way, it seems like the article puts a bit too much faith on Hillary's email issue getting worse. It seems like Hillary's email issue is way overblown (than what might come out in the end) mostly by GOP partisans, Fox News, and of course by conservative talk radio. Probably, Clinton being beholden to special interests throwing big dollars at her fundraiser events is much worse than any outcome from her damn emails.

What seems more apparent by now is that there is a generational divide among Democrats where Bernie takes unbelievably high share of youth vote (roughly 35 and younger) while Clinton takes the lion share of older voters (about 40 and older).

Bernie's supporters might feel somewhat dejected if he does not win the nomination but not all is doom and gloom because the most of America is already in the process of becoming more like Bernie's core group of supporters. This demographics has only begun to participate in electoral process and it will only grow as time passes just because of its sheer number. It is obvious that they will elect people who share their world view as they become dominant voting group among all voting groups.

In essence, America will look more like Bernie's core group of supporters than those of Clinton or Trump.







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Posted on 03-31-16 6:57 AM     [Snapshot: 14154]     Reply [Subscribe]
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The generational divide between Hillary and Bernie is understandable, one reason being that younger generation is more accepting of the notion of revolution while the older generation flinches at the hint of agitating the equlibrium. The second reason is the negative connotation attached with the label "socialist". Bernie could have been more pragmatic and avoided the word "socialist" altogether.

What is astounding is the current racial divide among the democrats. So far, Bernie has won mostly the majority white states. He still hasn't been able to gather the support of people of color. It's hard to believe that the person who got arrested during a civil rights protest in his early 20's hasn't been able to appeal to the racial minorities. He lost in a progressive state like Massachusetts and is not favored to win New York. The Bernie campaign's strategy doesn't seem to be working. Why doesn't his campaign make an official ad with 1963's arrest video? Spreading negativity about your opponents hasn't worked for anyone in this election season. People are fed up with negative ads. Instead of trying to bring dishonour to Hillary's reputation, Bernie's campaign and supporters everywhere could focus on spreading the positive message: hope and inclusiveness; a future to believe in for everyone.
 
Posted on 03-31-16 10:28 AM     [Snapshot: 14194]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Wah Waah Waaah !! lol !! Guess Team Hillary is in a lil Panic mode should I say ? This is almost like Mommy Mommy...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/03/30/hillary-clinton-ally-hits-bernie-sanders-fec-complaints/82426790/
 
Posted on 03-31-16 10:43 AM     [Snapshot: 14198]     Reply [Subscribe]
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lol , so much for $27 per individual contribution.
He didn't even realize why he was getting all that, goes on averaging the received funds, blatantly lying "Twanthey saven dollahs" every speech.
Now can he say he's influenced by his donor? Nope but they donated. How can he blame 'Hillary' is a puppet of her donors and how can his supporters think that 'Hillary' will work for special interest group than general public?
For god sake, the most powerful person on earth is no slave of few riches. If he/she was, Obama who took super PAC money would be doing 'monkey dance' right now.
Wake up, sleeping ones and stop singing 'Iam not voting coz he's gonna win, but I am voting because he's an honest nice person' lam-slam-ham hippie rants.
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Posted on 03-31-16 11:28 AM     [Snapshot: 14225]     Reply [Subscribe]
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If you are still not sure who to support :P




 
Posted on 03-31-16 11:30 AM     [Snapshot: 14225]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@sixfour, You are an idiot not understanding super-pac and individual contributions. People are going around donating 27 dollars expecting a policy favor. What are you talking about?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/hillary-clinton-foundation-state-arms-deals

http://www.ibtimes.com/campaign-2016-hillary-clinton-pitched-iraq-business-opportunity-us-corporations-2121999

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/9/hillary-clinton-honduraslatinamericaforeignpolicy.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
 
Posted on 03-31-16 12:16 PM     [Snapshot: 14255]     Reply [Subscribe]
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lolitalover, did you read the whole thing I wrote or you are also just happened to be a good dimwit to scan few lines and haste on replying with your boombastic reply.

What I wrote up there is, just today, it's revealed that super PAC influenced group donated him big without his knowledge. What am saying is were they asking for policy favor? Nope but them (super PAC influenced) donated him big. But bernie accuses others that super PAC donation influences policy making.

Is it so hard to understand? I don't blame if your cerebral cortex having difficulty to time with your thalamus to understand this simplest thing am saying. Rest up, read up not just scan and come back to argue, rather than proving yourself an outlandish idiot.
 
Posted on 03-31-16 2:03 PM     [Snapshot: 14286]     Reply [Subscribe]
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lol Sixfour your argument is already flawed. There is a HUGE diff betwn endorsing the Super Pac and Someone just creating one because he wants to(even so called self financing Trump had super pacs formed by people he had no knowledge of). Both Superpacs for Bernie are independent NOT endorsed by Bernie or his campaign. Where as Hillary's SuperPacs are the same folk who paid her 250,000 for a Freakin' Speech(they were broke when they left the white house from the scandals( (White Water, Lewinsky, Travelgate etc etc to name a few)). Now they are worth 45 million. You do the math. Just take a look at Bernie's voting record vs Hillary's. Hillary has always been a chameleon while Bernie has ALWAYS STAYED TRUE TO HIS PRINCIPLES. That is one of the main reasons people say THEY DO NOT TRUST HILLARY.
Even the republicans have said that Bernie is an Honest and Honorable guy. I am not a Clinton hater but my gut feelings do not trust her.
http://fortune.com/2016/02/15/hillary-clinton-net-worth-finances/
 
Posted on 04-01-16 12:54 AM     [Snapshot: 14365]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Posted on 04-01-16 8:17 AM     [Snapshot: 14394]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sixfour you are seriously plagued with misinformation as we have seen multiple times in the course of this discussion.

You need to learn the difference between PAC contributions that does not have any limits and individual contributions that has a limit.

Bernie has repeated many times that he only takes individual contributions. Individuals are like you and me working anywhere. If I work for the Gas industry but feel like contributing to Bernie, that only proves that EVEN people - who are working for industries that support PACs that contribute to Hillary - are actually supporting Bernie on their own because they believe in him.
 
Posted on 04-01-16 8:24 AM     [Snapshot: 14388]     Reply [Subscribe]
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lol Sixfour. Again you seem to be a lil confused. ok Sanders received $$ from INDIVIUALS FROM OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY, that was FOR HIS CAMPAIGN. But I am talking about Hillary's Personal Wealth which is net worth a whopping 45 million, was earned by giving speeches to the same people(Financial & Banking Institutions, and Big Corporations) who are running her SuperPacs. So if you connect the dots you can see what I am talking about. You can say all you want that they are not going to influence me but her personal history shows otherwise. To Clintons, Politics is a Family Business(even her daughter earns a six figure salary working at the Clinton Foundation). 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/foreign-governments-gave-millions-to-foundation-while-clinton-was-at-state-dept/2015/02/25/31937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html

If you look at it carefully there is a pattern here. That is why I DO NOT TRUST HER.

 
Posted on 04-01-16 8:30 AM     [Snapshot: 14403]     Reply [Subscribe]
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I think u r misinformed neo dai. U acknowledged that individual has a limit of how much he or she can contribute and I think its two thousand something. But if u look at the opensecret data, bernie campaign has garnered over 50k from a corp. So u r right this contribution exceeded individual limit. By the way, its not me, its opensecret hinting bernie is not untouched by such contribution that he always seems to denounce. Am not trying to say as if this is a big crime but saying a thing or two bout him. I still have big support for him n hillary.
 
Posted on 04-01-16 8:37 AM     [Snapshot: 14405]     Reply [Subscribe]
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It is amazing how Hillary supporters turn a blind eye to all her lies and corruption! How can one support such a person to the most powerful position in the world?

Sanders, during his own interview on Wednesday night, was asked a series of questions about Trump's comments. After disavowing Trump's statements, Sanders then questioned why the mogul's comments were dominating the political conversation.
"Because media is what media is today, any stupid, absurd remark made by Donald Trump becomes the story of the week," Sanders told MSNBC. "Maybe, just maybe, we might want to have a serious discussion about the serious issues facing America."
Hillary, close behind Trump in becoming a pathological liar, converted Bernie's statement to completely false narrative by saying:
"I want you to hear this because last night, Senator Sanders agreed that Donald Trump's comments were shameful, but then he said they were a distraction from, and I quote, 'A serious discussion about the serious issues facing America,'" Clinton said to boos from the crowd. "To me, this is a serious issue and it is a very serious discussion. I know Senator Sanders supports a woman's right to choose and I also know that Planned Parenthood Action Fund and NARAL endorsed me because I led on this issue."

Her action shows how desperate she has become. She is willing to go any length to lie about Bernie Sanders. She shows that she lacks any ethics or morality in spreading lies about Bernie who has never lied about her.

Clinton has been caught telling multiple lies about Sanders, and was even been chastised for her lying about Sanders by many people, including a former adviser to Bill Clinton, and  The New York Times, which has endorsed Clinton. Among her top lies of the campaign

Clinton has also been caught telling other lies beyond lying about Sanders during this campaign, such as when she was caught  rewriting history on her support for the defense of marriage act.  (She has also been caught lying about Donald Trump and other Republicans by the factcheckers, but there is already too much here to go into that today.)

Of course Clinton has a long history of lying which is not limited to her political opponents, such as her false claims of a tie between Saddam and al Qaeda to justify the Iraq war, and the many lies she has told about her conduct as Secretary of State.

There was no reason for Clinton to run such a dishonest campaign considering the degree to which Sanders has wanted to stick to the issues, but Clinton could not help herself. Lying is what she does (and having a habitual lier and warmonger as Commander in Chief is quite scary). This is also not very wise politically. There are already many Sanders supporters who will probably not vote for her if she wins the nomination, and bogus attacks on Sanders such as this will not help matters.


 
Posted on 04-01-16 8:43 AM     [Snapshot: 14415]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Bittertruth you are flipflopping more than Hillary here. You said in your post that it was individual contributions but now you are saying it's corporation?


Even the link you posted shows the following:


So there you go. You were wrong in your first assumption. And you are still wrong because that data includes PAC as well as individuals and guess what? Sanders only got it from individuals.

 
Posted on 04-01-16 8:43 AM     [Snapshot: 14414]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Money she took for speeches was even before when she stood for president. So that is a crime? Other candidates do that too. Even in nepal, in the name of saptaha, priest make crore of rupees. So speech and contribution kind of go hand in hand. Bro, if u r checking youtube vids made by conservative fanatics, i dont have any say. They literally are hellbent to demonize her or bernie. Last time neo dai gave me a video link revealing so called secrets of hillary. I checked the source first, it was made by conservative fanatic and his channel full of anti-liberlism. Second, out of 11 facts, 9 facts are all made up and there are no trace of such allegations on internet and even those mentioned are not as violent as it was described on that video when u read the whole thing.

Please stop reading and watching such nonsense. You r better than that.
 



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