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 Is Mahabharat exactly true ? महाभारत मा भएका कुरा हरु के सत्य हुन् त ?

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Posted on 10-23-09 11:10 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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महाभारत मा भएका कुरा हरु के सत्य हुन् त ?  ...Does someone have good knowlege about mahabharat how the whole story came up ? Are those incident happend exactly what  were shown in " Mahabharat Program which is bordcasted in tv ? Did Ved Vyas wrote exactly what happened during mahabharat ???

Coz Mahabharat is really great !!!Just want more information from you guys !!!

Thank-X

 
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That is why the story of Mahabharat is hoax. If you believe in Mahabharat you must also believe in Harry Potter, period.


 
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It makes me think million times when our religion is called a myth especially by western civilization and including our own Nepali friends!!!!!

If Resurrection appearances of Jesus is possible after his death, why are theories of Hinduism and Mahabharat considered myth??? Does western civilization has any prove that Jesus came back after his death burial???

Keep in mind my friends that when Christianity and western civilization was considering our world to be 5-6 thousand years old and earth is flat, our religion and philosophy told us that our earth and universe are billions of years old!! And when Christianity any other philosophy had no clue about space time, our hindu philisophy discussed in Mahabharat knew the difference between earth time and space time.

Now dont tell me that those information was edited after scientist discovered about our space and its time!!!

As I already told you, fancy war description, fancy technologies are artisitic imagination which were passed by hundreds of generation through word of mounth and altered millions of time as per the needs. But it does not mean that the whole Mahabharat and Hinduism is wrong. Mahabharat story and its philophy are right and they did occured around 3000 BC.

If everything is wrong  then how the hell did our ancient people knew that there is a land bridge from India to Srilanka which was recently discovered by NASA? This land bridge is under sea rigght now. Ya it is absolutly wrong that it was monkeys who created that landbridge. As I said before that story was altered millions of times and it was an artistic imagination. But does not mean that there is no such landbridge which has been already proved by NASA.

How about those talks about gravity, space travel, space time, planets position, medicines that were dicussed in Mahabharat?? Now dont tell me that those things were added in that story by Hollywood once they were discovered!!!

 
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Balbahadur ji ko gyan lai maile mane, babal gyan raicha ni ta ...... 'dark period' ko concept ta mero lagi nitanta naulo ho ... tesko lagi dhanyabada; tara maile euta kura chahi bujina harek great war pachi world ko geography change huncha bhanne kura; war pachi deshko political boundary po change huncha world ko geography kasari change huncha? geography ta earth cycle ko karan le garda huncha ni, feri yaslai lagera madhur ra katitab rakshyas ko katha sanga najodnu hola ni; dherai sathiko comments padiyo, jati jati pade uti uti historic facts ra fantasy lai sathihaurle gajyang gujung gajyang gujung parer misai raheko paye, kun yathartha ho kun hawadari kura ho chuttyaunai garo ....
 
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Incidently, the dating of the Mahabharat War has been a matter of challenge
and controversy for a century or two. European scholars have maintained
that the events described in the ancient Sanskrut texts are imaginary and
subsequently, the Mahabharat derived to be a fictitiou tale of a war fought
between two rivalries. Starting from the so- called Aryan invasion into
Bharat, the current Bharatiya chronology starts from the compilation of
the Rigved in 1200 B.C., then come other Ved's, Mahaveer Jain is born,
then Gautam Buddha lives around 585 B.C. and the rest follows. In the meantime,
the Brahmanas, Samhi- tas, Puranas, etc. are written and the thought contained
therein is well-absorbed among the Hindu minds. Where does the Ramayan
and Mahabharat fit in ? Some say that the Ramayan follows Mahabharat and
some opine otherwise. In all this anarchy of Indian histography, the date
of the Mahabharat (the mythical story!) ranges between 1000 B.C.to 300
B.C. Saunskrut epics were academically attacked occasion- ally - an attempt
to disprove the authencity of the annals noted therein. For example, the
European Indologiest Maxmuller, tried the interpret the astronomical evidences
to prove that the observations recorded in the Hindu scriptures are imaginary,
probably because it did not match the prevelant views of European historians!

All the scholars have relied on this inscription found in the Jain Temple
at Aihole prepared by one Chalukya King Pulakeshi. It says, according to
scholars, that the temple was constructed in 30+3000+700+5 = 3735 years,
after the Bharat War and 50+6+500 = 556 years of Shaka era in Kali era.
Today Shaka era is 1910. Hence 1910- 556 = 1354 years ago the temple was
constructed. Thus the year of inscribing this note is 634 AD. At this time
3735 years had passed from the Bharat War. So the date of the War comes
to 3101 BC. This is also the date of Kali Yuga Commencement. Naturally,
it is evident that relying on the beginning of Kaliyuga Era and holding
that the War took place just before the commencement of Kaliyuga, this
inscription is prepared. It is obvious from the Mahabharat that the War
did not happen near about the beginning of Kaliyuga. (I have considered
this problem fully at a later stage.) If we can see that the inscription
is prepared by relying on some false assumption, we have to neglect it
because it has no value as an evidence. Moreover the interpretation done
by the scholars is doubtful because they have not considered the clauses
separately and they held Bharat War and Kali Era as one and the same.

http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/ancient/mahabharat/mahab_vartak.html

 
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1. "The Greek Ambassodor Magasthenis has recorded that 138 generations
have passed between Krishna and Chandragupta Maurya. Many scholars have
taken this evidence, but taking only 20 years per generation they fixed
the date of Krishna as 2760 years before Chandragupta. But this is wrong
because the record is not of ordinary people to take 20 years per generation.
In the matter of general public, one says that when a son is born a new
generation starts. But in the case of kings, the name is included in the
list of Royal Dynasty only after his corona- tion to the throne. Hence,
one cannot allot 20 years to one king. We have to find out the average
per king by calculating on various Indian Dynasties. I have considered
60 kings from various dynasties and calculated the average of each king
as 35 years. Here is a list of some of important kings with the no. of
years ruling.



      Chandragupta Mourya      330-298 B.C.     32 years.
Bindusar 298-273 B.C. 25 years.
Ashok 273-232 B.C. 41 years.
Pushyamitra Shunga 190-149 B.C. 41 years.
Chandragupta Gupta 308-330 A.D. 22 years.
Samudragupta 330-375 A.D. 45 years.
Vikramaditya 375-414 A.D. 39 years.
Kumargupta 414-455 A.D. 41 years.
Harsha 606-647 A.D. 41 years.
---------
327 years.

The average is 327/9 = 36.3 years.



Multiplying 138 generations by 35 years we get 4830 years before Chan-
dragupta Mourya. Adding Chandrgupta's date 320 B.C. to 4830 we get 5150
B.C. as the date of Lord Krishna.



2. Megasthenis, according to Arian, has written that between Sandro-
cotus to Dianisaum 153 generations and 6042 years passed. From this data,
we get the average of 39.5 years per king. From this we can cal- culate
5451 years for 138 generations. So Krishna must have been around 5771 B.C.



3. Pliny gives 154 generations and 6451 years between Bacchus and Alexander.
This Bacchus may be the famous Bakasura who was killed by Bhimasena. This
period comes to about 6771 years B.C.



Thus Mahabharat period ranges from 5000 B.C. to 6000 B.C.


 
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THE EXACT DATE OF MAHABHARAT WAR

16TH OCTOBER 5561 YEAR B.C.



Harivansh (Vishnu Purana A. 5) states that when Nanda carried Krishna
to Gokul on Shravan Vadya Navami day, there was dry cow-dung spread all
over the ground and trees were cut down. The presence of Dry Cowdung all
over in Gokul indicates the presence of Summer in the month of Shravan.
Trees are usually cut down in Summer to be used as fuel in the rainy season.
The seasons move one month backwards in two thousand years. Today the rainy
season starts in Jeshtha but two thousand years ago, at the time of KaIidas,
rainy season used to start in Ashadha. At the time of Krishna's birth the
Summer was in the month of Shravan while today it is in Vaishakha. Thus
the summer is shifted by four months, hence Krishna's period comes to 4x2000
= 8000 years ago approximately. This means about 6000 years B.C., the same
period we have seen above.



At the time of Mahabharat, the Vernal Equinox was at Punarvasu. Next
to Punarvasu is Pushya Nakshtra. Vyas used "Pushyadi Ganana"
for his Sayan method, and called Nirayan Pushya as Sayan Ashvini. He shifted
the names of further Sayan Nakshtras accordingly. At that time Winter Solstice
was on Revati, so Vyas gave the next Nakshatra Ashvini the first palee
in the Nirayan list of Nakshatras. Thus he used Ashvinyadi Ganana for the
Nirayan method. Using at times Sayan names and at times Nirayan names of
the Nakshatras, Vyas prepared the riddles. By the clue that Nirayan Pushya
means Sayan Ashvini, it is seen that Nirayan names of Nakshatras are eight
Nakshatras ahead of the Sayan names Thus the Saturn in Nirayan Purva, and
Sayan Rohini, Jupiter was in Nirayan Shravan, and Sayan Swati (near Vishakha),
while the Mars was in Nirayan Anuradha, and Sayan Magha, Rahu was between
Chitra and Swati, by Sayan way means it was in Nirayana. Uttara Ashadha
(8 Nakshtras ahead). From these positions of the major planets we can calculated
the exact date. My procedure is as follows:



I found out that on 5th May 1950, the Saturn was in Purva Phalguni.
From 1950 I deducted 29.45 years to get the year 1920 when the Saturn was
again in Purva. In this way I prepared a vertical column of the years when
the Saturn was in Purva. Similarly, I prepared vertical columns of the
years when the Jupiter was in Shravan and Rahu in Uttara Ashadha. Then
I searched in horizontally to find out the year common in all the three
columns. It was 5561-62 B.C. when all the three great planets were at the
required places. Then I proceded for the detailed calculations.



Bhisma expired at the onset of Uttarayan i.e. on 22nd December. This
is a fixed point according to the modern Scientific Calendar. He was on
the arrow-bed for 58 nights and he had fought for ten days. Hence 68 days
earlier than 22nd December the War had started. This shows that the War
started on 16th October. We have to calculate the plane- tary positions
of 16th October 5561 B.C.


 
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Hereunder is provided a short table dates of important Mahabharat events
in years. (Dates and Tithis in years in Rama Samvat assuming Shri Rama
Samvat 1st January. 1 equivalent to 1st Jan 7323 B.C. Rama's birth date
has been conclusively proved to be 4th Dec. 7323 B.C.( "Vastav
Ramayan
").



    EVENT                                      DATE       


    Going to forest 4th Sept. 5574 BC

    Kitmeet Killed 7th Sept. 5574 BC

    Going underground 19th May 5562 BC

    Keechak killed 1st April 5561 BC

    Anukeechak-Massacre 2nd April 5561 BC

    End of secret life 9th April 5561 BC

    Cows stolen 15th April 5561 BC

    Arjuna exposed 16th April 5561 BC

    All pandavas exposed 19th April 5561 BC

    Marriage of Uttara 4th May.
    & Abhimanyu.

    Krishna set out for a treaty. 27th Sept.

    Stay at Upaplavya 27th Sept.

    Stay at Vrukshthala 28th Sept.

    Dinner to Brahmins 29th Sept.

    Entry into Hastinapur 30th Sept.

    Krishna meets Kunti etc. 1st Oct.

    Invited for meeting 2nd Oct.

    First meeting 3rd Oct.

    Second meeting and an attempt 4th Oct.
    to arrest Krishna.

    Third meeting Vishvaroopa 7th Oct.

    Stay at Kunti 8th Oct.

    Krishna meets Karna. War 9th Oct.
    fixed.

    Krishna returns 9th Oct.

    Pandavas preparation 11th Oct.
    Balaram's visit.

    Mahabharat war started 16th Oct.

    Abhimanyu killed 28th Oct. 5561 BC.

    End of War 2nd November 5561 B.C.

    Yudhishthira crowned 16th Nov. 5551 BC.

    Bhishma expired 22nd Dec. 5561 BC

    Pandava campaign 15th Jan. 5560 BC
    for wealth

    Parikshita born 28th Jan. 5560 BC

    Pandavas return 25th Feb. 5560 BC

    Ashvamedh Deeksha. 1st March 5560 BC

    Return of Arjuna Horse 15th Jan. 5560 BC

    Ashvamedh yajna 22nd Feb. 5559 BC

    Dhrutarashtra went to forest 18th Aug. 5545 BC

    Pandavas visited Kunti 18th Aug. 5543 BC
    Vidura expired

    Death of Kunti, Dhrutarashtra, Sept./Oct. 5541 BC
    and Gandhari

    Yadava Massacre 5525 B.C.

    Parikshit Dead 5499 B.C.




 
Posted on 11-01-09 10:36 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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balbahadur,

Jesus rising from the dead is a myth so is Mahabharat's supernatural powers. Sai baba producing objects out of thin air is magic trick.

I also believe that it's very common for us to raise some of us with extraordinary skills to the level of God. No human that ever walked this earth is God.

 
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pire bro
thanks for all the infos. 
Balbahadur bro,
Thanks for the enlightenment !

 
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Mahabharat was not written as a modern-day novel by a single author for an intended specific audience. The stories were passed orally for several generations before the advent of appropriate writing systems and written over a period of time. While the stories appear to be for the comsumption of the general masses, there is enough space for interpretation in several layers. So, even though the war in the epic most likely refers to some great war in history, the purpose of the epic, as envisaged by the authors, appears to have very little to do with reporting history alone. Consequently, its significance lies in its vastness in terms of the presentation of plots and philosophical insights, and the enormity of its influence on popular imagination rather than its historicity (which has remained debatable). 


 

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Arjun in a theme park in Java:


 



 
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Management Skills that can be learnt from Mahabharat which is still relevant in 21st century.
 
• Turn your weaknesses into strengths.
• Turn enemies into allies.
• Share your responsibilities.
• Teamwork scores over Individual Effort.
• Right Team = Right set of Individuals. Assign the right person for the right job.
• Commitment scores over Competence.
• Team interests over Individual interests.
• Know your enemy/challenges. Exploit its weaknesses. Take calculated risks.
• The Right Managers: To inspire, invigorate, and counsel in crisis.
• Know Ground realities. Accept different ideologies. Foster sharing and co-operation.
• Empower Women. Gender Balance is required for stability and administration
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2vhCPBjqcA
 
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It was enlightening.  Years, decades, centuries pass and what remains is memory... 

 
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